Vista sul mare, 2 minuti a piedi dal mare, WiFi e piscina privata riscaldata, con oltre 70 recensioni

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Piscina
Un ampio soggiorno con una grande porta vetrata che dà su un balcone con vista sull'oceano.
Piscina
Area soggiorno
Una piscina con acqua cristallina e lettini bianchi.

Recensioni

10 su 10, Più popolare
Tra le strutture con le recensioni migliori in quest’area

In evidenza

  • Spiaggia, onde e sabbia
    Gli ospiti apprezzano la splendida vista sulla spiaggia di questa struttura.
  • Attrezzatura da spiaggia
    Un’occasione rara: attrezzatura da spiaggia pronta per le tue giornate al mare.
  • In posizione centrale
    Con questa posizione strategica, sei sempre vicino a dove devi essere.
  • Attrazioni nelle vicinanze
    Close to Aiguafreda Beach

Servizi più richiesti

  • Balcone
  • Piscina privata
  • Griglia da barbecue
  • Wi-Fi gratuito
  • Aria condizionata
  • Cucina

Esplora la zona

Vedi sulla mappa
Aiguafreda, Begur, Costa Brava
  • Place, Spiaggia di Aiguafreda
    ‪14 min a piedi‬
  • Place, Platja Sa Tuna
    ‪3 min in auto‬
  • Place, Spiaggia di Sa Riera
    ‪6 min in auto‬
  • Airport, Aeroporto di Girona (GRO-Costa Brava)
    ‪69 min in auto‬

Camere e letti

3 camere (6 posti letto)

Camera da letto

1 letto king

Camera da letto

2 letti singoli

Camera da letto

1 letto king

2 bagni

Bagno

Asciugamani forniti in loco · WC · Solo doccia · Asciugacapelli

Bagno 1

Asciugamani forniti in loco · Vasca da bagno · WC · Solo doccia · Asciugacapelli

Spazi

Terrazza o patio
Cucina
Balcone
Sala da pranzo separata
Giardino

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Strutture simili

Informazioni sulla zona

Begur

Questa villa si trova a Begur e vanta una posizione strategica in campagna e vicino alla spiaggia. Museo del Mediterraneo e Museo Palau Solterra sono due delle principali attrazioni culturali della zona. A livello di punti di riferimento, invece, spiccano Castello di Begur e Torre de les Hores (torre). Anche Ses Negres e Giardino Botanico di Cap Roig meritano una visita. Scopri le divertenti discipline sportive della zona, tra cui moto d'acqua e immersioni subacquee, oppure vivi grandi avventure all'aria aperta con attività come gite a piedi o in bici e mountain bike.
Mappa
Aiguafreda, Begur, Costa Brava

Cosa c’è nei dintorni?

  • Ses Negres - 9 min a piedi - 0.8 km
  • Spiaggia di Aiguafreda - 14 min a piedi - 1.2 km
  • Platja Sa Tuna - 3 min in auto - 1.8 km
  • Spiaggia di Sa Riera - 6 min in auto - 2.8 km
  • Spiaggia di Aiguablava - 16 min in auto - 9.1 km

Come spostarsi

  • Stazione di Flaça - 34 min. in auto
  • Aeroporto di Girona (GRO-Costa Brava) - 55 min. in auto

Ristoranti

  • ‪Ultramar Begur - ‬10 min in auto
  • ‪Carbó - ‬12 min in auto
  • ‪Sol i Mar - ‬9 min in auto
  • ‪Es Castell - ‬12 min in auto
  • ‪Mar Blau - ‬10 min in auto

Domande frequenti

Vista sul mare, 2 minuti a piedi dal mare, WiFi e piscina privata riscaldata, con oltre 70 recensioni ha una piscina?

Sì, la struttura dispone di una piscina all'aperto. Le piscine sono riscaldate o di altro tipo.

Gli animali sono accettati presso Vista sul mare, 2 minuti a piedi dal mare, WiFi e piscina privata riscaldata, con oltre 70 recensioni?

No, questa struttura non accetta animali domestici.

Quanto costa il parcheggio presso Vista sul mare, 2 minuti a piedi dal mare, WiFi e piscina privata riscaldata, con oltre 70 recensioni?

Presso la struttura è disponibile un parcheggio in loco.

A che ora si deve eseguire il check-in presso Vista sul mare, 2 minuti a piedi dal mare, WiFi e piscina privata riscaldata, con oltre 70 recensioni?

Orario di inizio del check-in: 15:00.

A che ora si deve eseguire il check-out presso Vista sul mare, 2 minuti a piedi dal mare, WiFi e piscina privata riscaldata, con oltre 70 recensioni?

Orario del check-out: 10:00.

Dove si trova Vista sul mare, 2 minuti a piedi dal mare, WiFi e piscina privata riscaldata, con oltre 70 recensioni?

Con una buona posizione sul mare, questa villa si trova a 15 minuti a piedi da luoghi d'interesse come Ses Negres e Spiaggia di Aiguafreda. Platja Sa Tuna e Spiaggia di Sa Riera si trovano ugualmente a meno di 2 km di distanza.

Recensioni

10

Eccezionale

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Valutazione di 10 - Eccellente. 84 su 92 recensioni
Valutazione di 8 - Buono. 8 su 92 recensioni
Valutazione di 6 - Soddisfacente. 0 su 92 recensioni
Valutazione di 4 - Scarso. 0 su 92 recensioni
Valutazione di 2 - Terribile. 0 su 92 recensioni

9,8/10

Pulizia

10/10

Check-in

9,8/10

Comunicazione

9,8/10

Posizione

10/10

Accuratezza dell’annuncio

Recensioni

Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio
Amazing house. All worked perfectly from the booking process till the check out. We had two great weeks there. House is also perfectly safe for children. Will repeat for sure!
Soggiorno di 14 notti ad agosto 2026
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 2 set 2026
Thanks for leaving us this review Antonio. It was so good that you had a great time and that you felt that it was safe for your children too. It will be great to welcome you back again in the future
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio
We had a great time staying at John and Sian's beautiful villa. The property is extremely well maintained and supplied with all you need for a very comfortable stay. The hosts are extremely helpful and provide excellent information about the property and surrounding area to help you make the most of your stay. The villa is also very well located in a lovely area with several fantastic beaches and coves close to hand.
Soggiorno di 7 notti ad agosto 2025
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 17 ago 2025
Thank you taking the time to leave a review John. We are really happy that you enjoyed your time at our place. You have been perfect guests, very easy to work with and great communication. Thanks for taking care of our things and leaving it all in such a great condition You are welcome back any time. Thanks again
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Fantastic stay!

We absolutely loved our stay at Les tres oliveres. The house is beautiful, cosy and convenient, it makes you instantly feel at home. The view and swimming pool are also fantastic. John and Sian have been extremely reactive and kind. I highly recommend this house, we ll definetly come back!
Soggiorno di 7 notti a maggio 2022
Recensione verificata

8/10 Buono

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

nice house with nice sea view

Nice house for 6 people with a nice pool in a quiet location. Several bays with sandy beaches are about a 15-minute drive away. Good communication with the owner
Soggiorno di 7 notti a luglio 2023
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Beautiful villa in a perfect location

The villa is spacious and tastefully decorated with a lovely garden and pool. The location is beautiful, set on a hill overlooking the sea, and not overlooked by other villas. The area is quiet, and beaches and coves are within walking distance. We only scratched the surface of the area, as we spent time relaxing in the villa, or spending a day at one of the amazing beaches snorkelling. We'd go back again, as there's so much we didn't do, but had a great time.
Soggiorno di 7 notti ad agosto 2023
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio
We had a wonderful stay at the villa and wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.From the moment we arrived, it felt incredibly welcoming. The hosts couldn't have been more patient or helpful with every request we made, and nothing ever seemed too much trouble. It was such a thoughtful touch to find chilled beers and a bottle of cava waiting for us in the fridge, which immediately made us feel at home.The villa is a little oasis of calm. The views are stunning, the gardens are beautifully designed, and the whole place has a wonderfully peaceful atmosphere. One of our favourite moments each day was sitting outside watching the sunrise – it was absolutely beautiful.We loved the layout of the villa. It worked perfectly for our family, with plenty of space to come together while also allowing everyone to enjoy a little privacy. It felt spacious, comfortable and incredibly relaxing.The location is ideal for exploring the beautiful coves and beaches of the Costa Brava, with excellent restaurants nearby. We'd definitely recommend an evening in Begur, which has a lovely atmosphere. One practical tip: hire the smallest automatic car you can, as the roads are narrow and winding.Overall, we made some wonderful family memories and would happily return. We'd highly recommend this villa to anyone looking for a peaceful, beautifully maintained retreat in a stunning location.
Soggiorno di 7 notti a giugno 2026
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 13 lug 2026
Thank you for leaving such a thorough review of our place Cliona. So pleased that you enjoyed yourselves and nhad a good time. You are welcome back at any time.
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Lovely house with stunning views in a quiet area around Begur

We have enjoyed our two weeks to the max. The house exceeded our expectations. We loved spending our days at the pool and the veranda. One of the big advantages of the house for us: its so calm and quiet here, especially during these busy weeks in the Begur area. And the stunning view, my first morning coffee overlooking the sea was incredible, 14 days in a row! Contact with the owner was very pleasant. Good and poractive communication. Everything we needed to know, we knew upfront. And made clear via video's or how to explanation. All and all a very nice place to stay at the centre of the Begur area. Great spot to visit all the nice bays, the city of Begur and the wider area. For sure a recommendation!
Soggiorno di 14 notti a luglio 2024
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 13 ago 2024
A perfect guest! Thank you again Anders for leaving us a review. You have been really pleasant to deal with from our first contact to our last. Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you would like to return Thanks again Sian and John
Archivio

10/10 Eccellente

August 2008

The villa exceeded expectations. The views from the balcony were superb and far better than could be grasped from the photos. The garden and pool were private, unoverlooked and peaceful. The area around was beautiful but in the end we could not tear oursleves away from the villa much. The villa itself was well equipped and had the benefit of feeling very much like a home. The beds were comfortable and unusually for holiday accommodation the sofas were of good quality. The kids were very happy with the den with the large TV and playstation and it was conveniently situated so that the noise from it could not be heard elsewhere. A little more information in the welcome pack on supermarkets would have been helpful (general opening times & specific locations) Thank you for a great week
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 27 ago 2023
thanks for the review Gerald and Sandra and so glad that you enjoyed the villa. Thanks too for the feedback on the Welcome Book - we can definitely add more specific info on Supermarket location details - opening times can be more difficult because they change all through the year but we will give it a go. come back anytime! thanks John
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio
Beautiful villa and pool in a wonderful location. We spent 2 weeks as a family of 5 (3 teenage children) here in August. The villa, grounds and surroundings surpassed our expectations. The view across the valley and sea is wonderful and the villa felt like a home from home. Everything is very well and lovingly maintained. It is a pleasant walk downhill and along a coastal path to Cala d'aiguafreda which has a good and reasonably priced beach bar (probably a 10 minute walk there but a little longer back as uphill) and another 5-10 minute walk around the coastal path to Sa Tuna beach with more cafes/bars. Begur village is a lovely village within 5 minutes driving distance from the villa and there are plenty more Spanish villages only a short drive away that are worth visiting. We also visited Girona for a day (by car) and took a day trip to Barcelon (by car and train) so we mixed a beach holiday with some city visits which was great and we all loved returning to the sanctuary of the villa and pool after a day exploring. The owners of the villa, Sian and John were brilliant. So responsive and helpful – nothing was too much trouble and it made the stay very special. We hope to return to the villa soon and would definitely recommend.
Soggiorno di 14 notti ad agosto 2025
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 4 set 2025
Bert and Kate, Thank you so much for taking the time to leave us a review. We loved having you stay and you have been perfect guests. We really look forward to you returning. Thanks again Sian and John
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio
Beautiful villa, even prettier that the photos. Our family of 5 stayed for a week in August, we really loved it. The surrounding coast is fantastic and the local beaches and coves are perfect. Plentiful restaurants are a short drive away, with the historic town of Begur close by. The villa’s outside space is a highlight with sea views from the terrace and pool area, with spectacular sunrises and a perfect way to start the day. John was a perfect host and messaged with lots of local recommendations and was always responsive to messages. We’d love to return
Soggiorno di 7 notti ad agosto 2026
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 9 ago 2026
Thank you for leaving this review Alex. You were incredibly easy, straightforward and pleasant to deal with from start to finish. Siân and I were so pleased with your comments during and after your stay. It feels as if you enjoy our place as much as we do. As I said to you, you are really welcome back whenever you wish Thanks again John
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio
John and Sian are incredibly helpful and responsive hosts. Nothing is too much trouble in terms of answering queries etc. The property has the most glorious views and is thoughtfully decorated and presented. The whole place is very comfortable including beds and sofas. The kitchen is well equipped. We would love to return at some point in the future.
Soggiorno di 7 notti a giugno 2026
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 20 giu 2026
Hi Susan, Thanks so much for the lovely review. Siân and I were so happy to read your kind words. We’re really glad you enjoyed the views and felt comfy in the house—it’s great to know you felt right at home. It was a pleasure having you, and we’d love to welcome you back anytime. All the best, Siân and John
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Preciosa villa con bonitas vistas y bien ubicada.

La villa es preciosa, con bonita decoración, habitaciones amplias, muy bien equipada, con mucho gusto. Desde las terrazas se ve el mar. Los propietarios son muy amables y están muy atentos a todos los detalles
Soggiorno di 7 notti ad agosto 2024
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 12 set 2024
Gracias Juani por tomarte el tiempo de escribirnos esta reseña. Nos alegra mucho que hayas disfrutado de tu estadía en nuestra casa y eres bienvenida de nuevo en cualquier momento. Thank you Juani for taking the time to write this review for us. We are so pleased that you enjoyed your time at our house and you are welcome back at any time
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Superbe séjour à Begur

La villa est idéalement située, le jardin très agréable. La maison n’est pas très grande mais comme on passe sa vie entre la terrasse, la piscine et les plages environnantes ce n’est pas bien grave! 🙂
Soggiorno di 7 notti ad agosto 2024
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 12 set 2024
Merci d'avoir choisi de séjourner dans notre maison à Begur et d'avoir pris le temps d'écrire cet avis. Depuis que nous avons réaménagé le jardin cette année, nous pensons également que c'est un endroit agréable où passer du temps. Merci encore Caroline. Thank you for deciding to stay at our house in Begur and also for taking the time to write this review. Since relandscaping the garden this year we also feel that it is a great area to hang out in. Thank you again Caroline.
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Wat een heerlijke plek

Een mooi en compleet huis met een geweldig uitzicht. Heerlijk zwembad en fijne kamers met prima bedden. Terrassen zijn heerlijk, de keuken van alle gemakken en ondersteund materiaal voorzien. De omgeving is natuurlijk ook super en dat maakt het plaatje compleet. Daarnaast zijn de eigenaren zeer behulpzaam en hebben een uitgebreid welkomsboek klaar liggen met alle info die je zoekt. Kortom: top!
Soggiorno di 7 notti a luglio 2024
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 12 ago 2024
Thanks for your kind comments Patrick. You and your family were perfect guests and you know that you are welcome back at any time Thanks again Sian and John
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Perfect holiday spot close to Begur

We have amazing family time …. If you are looking for place to stay close to Begur is the one to choose.
Soggiorno di 7 notti ad agosto 2022
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Gezellige woning, met prachtig uitzicht!

Deze mooie woning ligt zeer centraal en is van alle gemakken voorzien. Wij hebben hier een heerlijke vakantie gehad met 3 volwassen kinderen.
Soggiorno di 14 notti a luglio 2022
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

beautiful!

The home was everything we hoped for and more. Amazing view. John was well prepared and gave us a ton of info to draw upon!! Would love to return!
Soggiorno di 7 notti a ottobre 2019
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 27 ago 2023
Hi Jerry, so pleased that you enjoyed your time at our house. You are welcome back at any time thanks again John
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Tolles Haus in toller Lage

Das Haus ist wunderschön, mit sehr viel Liebe zum Detail eingerichtet. Genauso wie auf den Bildern. Lage toll, Garten super schön. Ein perfekter Ort für einen entspannten Urlaub.
Soggiorno di 7 notti ad agosto 2019
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 27 ago 2023
thanks for taking the time to leave this review Steffen and Claudia. We are so pleased that you enjoyed your stay at our house and you know that you are welcome back at any time. all the best Sian and John
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Beautiful villa and area

Both villa and location were beautiful. John very responsive and provided lots of helpful information for the property and local area.
Soggiorno di 7 notti ad agosto 2019
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 27 ago 2023
Thanks Karen for your review - you are welcome back at any time all the best John
Recensione verificata

8/10 Buono

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Lovely, cosy house

We had a great time at the house, our second visit. It has all you need for a lovely holiday. We hope to be back one day.
Soggiorno di 7 notti a luglio 2019
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 27 ago 2023
Good to have you return back again this year Heleen. You have one of three families to return again this year thanks again John
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Mi è piaciuto: Pulizia, check-in, comunicazione, posizione e accuratezza dell’annuncio

Superbe séjour

Villa très agréable et très bien située : au calme et avec une belle vue sur la mer
Soggiorno di 7 notti a luglio 2019
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 27 ago 2023
si heureux que vous ayez apprécié notre place Frédéric et apprécié la vue - vous êtes le bienvenu à tout moment bonne chance John so glad that you enjoyed our place Frederic, and enjoyed the view - you are welcome back at any time
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Fabulous property, stunning view, wonderful hosts

We enjoyed a wonderfully relaxing three weeks at the gorgeous Les Tres Oliveres which is equipped with everything you could possibly need - from a fabulous coffee maker to soft beach towels - for a perfect stay. The views are simply stunning from both the terrace and while sun bathing by the pool and although built on a hillside, with no slope behind the property casting a shadow, it has glorious continual sunshine from dawn to sunset. The local area is beautiful too with great beaches and many little towns and villages to explore. Begur is a truly delightful place with great restaurants and boutiques to enjoy a bit of browsing. Each morning we got our freshly squeezed orange juice and baked baguettes and croissants from Sa Riera which is only a four minute drive away. John & Sian are fabulous hosts, quickly responding to any query and determined to ensure you enjoy your stay in their beautiful home. Their kind and thoughtful assistance meant we had, for us, the perfect holiday
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 27 ago 2023
We are so pleased that you enjoyed or house and Begur, Catherine and David. Sorry that we could not fit you in 2019 but glad that you have already booked another 3 weeks for 2020
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Amazing location, so much to see and do

It's our third trip to this heavenly villa. Our family just loves the stylish touches, supreme comfort and home away from home feel of this beautiful place. The heated pool means it's hard to get the kids out especially after dark with the lights on! We found so many gorgeous beaches (the excellent manual tells you so much like which ones you need to get up early to park at) and coves this time and there's just so much to do. Really recommend boat hire with Begur Boats too to find the gems. We always love the restaurant recommendations - our favourite this year matched yours in Sa Riera! We'd recommend this to everyone. John's communication is always amazing and so friendly (I feel like I've met you John!). And having returned over three years we've always been impressed with the improvements you've made and the new touches. Loved the new loungers on the balcony area this year and moving the others made it even more comfortable at the pool. Love love love this place. Coming back again soon. Thanks John and Sian.
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 27 ago 2023
Hi Maisy, Thanks again for staying with us and for writing this review. We have many people who return from previous years but not many that come back for three successive years, especially someone that we have not even met! The upgraded pool heater has made a difference especially out of peak season but as you say even helps in the evenings in August. Begur Boats are based just 10 minutes walk away in Aiguafreda and hiring one of their boats will enable you to access many of the small coves which are accessible only by sea - you will often find yourself alone there, even in the peak season. One of our favourite restaurants that you mention in Sa Riera is called Recer de la Mar, and is definitely worth a visit. Excellent value but most of all, excellent food and super service. Sa Rascassa is also only about 10 minutes walk too, but in the other direction at Aiguafreda. Sian and I always appreciate your feedback Maisy, because you do spot the things that we change every year to try and improve the house and garden - those 2 new sun loungers are quite nice which brings them to a total of eight. So there are plenty of relaxing spaces in the garden and on the terraces not forgetting the outdoor sofa in the shade under the balcony. You know that you will always be welcome back at any time - thanks again Sian and John
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Belle maison très bien placée proche d une crique

La maison est fonctionnelle bien équipée et agréable pour des vacances en famille ou entre amis. Nous avons adoré la piscine et la vue sur mer. Nous recommandons !
Soggiorno di 7 notti ad agosto 2018
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 27 ago 2023
Merci Loic
Recensione verificata

10/10 Eccellente

Lovely villa, lovely area.

This villa has a wonderful homely feel. You can tell it is the owner’s holiday home as lots of thought and care has been put into the little details to make staying here comfortable. Begur is fabulous too. We’d definitely go back!
Soggiorno di 14 notti a luglio 2018
Risposta di VrboOwner, il giorno 27 ago 2023
Thanks Sarah Begur is a pretty special place and we are very pleased that you enjoyed the house too. Please come back when you are ready thanks again John
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