En el 10 % de los alojamientos mejor valorados de la zonaEn el 10 % de los alojamientos mejor valorados de la zona
Aspectos destacados
Cocina y relájate
El alojamiento tiene muy buenas valoraciones por su cocina totalmente equipada, perfecta para preparar lo que necesites.
Jardín privado
Experiencia excepcional: relájate en un tranquilo espacio ajardinado privado.
Espacios verdes a poca distancia
Los huéspedes valoran positivamente la ubicación por sus parques cercanos.
Descubre lugares de interés cercanos
Cerca de Lake Hollywood Park
4 habitaciones3 baños10 huéspedes
Servicios populares
Piscina privada
Bañera de hidromasaje en las instalaciones
Cocina
Lavadora
Aire acondicionado
Parrilla de barbacoa
Echa un vistazo a la zona
Los Angeles, CA
Lake Hollywood Park
Place, Lake Hollywood Park
A 13 min a pie
Avenida de Hollywood
Place, Avenida de Hollywood
A 7 min en coche
Paseo de la Fama de Hollywood
Place, Paseo de la Fama de Hollywood
A 8 min en coche
Los Ángeles, CA, Estados Unidos (LAX-Los Ángeles Intl.)
Airport, Los Ángeles, CA, Estados Unidos (LAX-Los Ángeles Intl.)
A 40 min en coche
Habitaciones y camas
4 habitaciones (capacidad para 10 personas)
Dormitorio 1
1 cama de matrimonio grande
Dormitorio 2
1 cama de matrimonio
Dormitorio 3
1 cama de matrimonio
Dormitorio 4
1 cama de matrimonio
3 baños
Baño 1
Bañera · WC · Solo ducha
Baño 2
Bañera · WC · Solo ducha
Baño 3
Bañera · WC · Solo ducha
Otros espacios
Cocina
Oficina
Balcón
Jardín
Acerca de este alojamiento
NEW Luxury Villa, Secret Garden, Pool, Dogs OK
Summary:
Welcome to Woodshire — old Hollywood glamour meets modern luxury, nestled just below the Hollywood Sign. Ideal for families, retreats, or couples seeking something truly special.
Secret Garden + Canyon Views
Saltwater Pool + Jacuzzi (included)
Deck: Gas BBQ + Dining for 8
Viking Kitchen + Italian Marble
500+ Plants & Trees + Dogs OK
NO PARTIES — STRICTLY ENFORCED
The Space:
It's rare to find a home that has been so thoughtfully restored — not only preserving its character, but elevating it. Terraces, balconies, and outdoor living spaces surround you at every turn. Perfect for executives, creatives, or families seeking luxury accommodations in LA.
★ "The photos truly do not do this home and its yards/pool justice… everything was top-notch and beautifully curated." — Amelia
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COURTYARD: Enter through the gated courtyard and you're welcomed by a grand fountain — the perfect spot for morning coffee or evening cocktails. The property spans three distinct levels.
✰ LEVEL ONE
LIVING ROOM: Sun-filled with a gas fireplace and three sets of French doors opening to stunning canyon views. Three balconies overlook the backyard below.
DINING ROOM: Soaring 14-foot ceilings and a charming breakfast nook with a built-in banquette.
KITCHEN: Open-concept with dramatic 20-foot ceilings, skylights, Italian marble, Viking appliances, and direct courtyard access — designed for effortless entertaining.
GUEST ROOMS (x2): Two queen bedrooms with a shared hallway bathroom featuring a double vanity. Front bedroom overlooks the courtyard; rear bedroom has pool and garden views.
✰ LEVEL TWO
DEN: Cozy TV den with built-in bookcases and a marble bar — perfect for movie nights and game days.
3RD GUEST BEDROOM: Queen bed, dedicated workspace, and access to a full hallway bathroom. Excellent privacy.
PRIMARY SUITE: King bed, walk-in closet, TV, private balcony, and a spa-like en-suite with a rainfall shower, soaking tub, and double vanity.
DECK: Spacious deck overlooking the saltwater pool — gas BBQ and outdoor dining for 8.
✰ LEVEL THREE
POOL & SPA: Large saltwater pool and hot tub. Jacuzzi heat is included. Pool heating available for $200/day (24-hr notice required — takes ~15 hrs to heat). Incredible outdoor shower with hot and cold water.
YARD: 500+ plants and trees throughout. Multiple lounging areas including a custom 6' x 25' concrete crescent couch that seats up to 20.
SECRET GARDEN: 100+ year-old grapefruit, avocado, and lemon trees, a private lawn, outdoor seating, and sweeping canyon views. Perfect for morning yoga, playing fetch, or relaxing under the pergola.
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BEDROOMS:
Each bedroom features plush high-end bedding, bespoke lighting, and premium linens.
Primary: King · Balcony · En-suite bath · TV
Bedroom 2: Queen · Corner windows · Pool/garden views
Bedroom 3: Queen · Dedicated workspace
Bedroom 4: Queen
STREET PARKING ONLY
No garage access. Plenty of street parking — up to 5 cars along the right side of Woodshire Drive. No permits required. Please don't block neighbors.
★ "The home was central to everything we planned in LA, but simply being in the house — cooking, swimming, socializing — was the highlight of the trip." — Nixie, Portland
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AIRPORTS
✈️ 45 mins → LAX
✈️ 24 mins → Burbank (highly recommended)
NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS
13 mins → Los Feliz
15 mins → Silver Lake
20 mins → West Hollywood / Sunset Strip
30 mins → Beverly Hills
20 mins → Downtown LA
LOCATION HIGHLIGHTS
4-min walk → Hiking Trails + Beachwood Café + Local Market
7 mins → Hollywood Walk of Fame
12 mins → Hollywood Bowl
15 mins → Universal / Warner Bros. / Disney Studios (Burbank)
15 mins → Runyon Canyon
20 mins → Griffith Observatory
🚫 NO PARTIES — STRICTLY ENFORCED
Unauthorized events will result in immediate eviction. Reach out before booking for event or filming/production pricing.
Homesharing Registration No: HSR25-003207
Guest Access:
All areas of the property are available to guests — courtyard, all three levels, pool, hot tub, deck, yard, and secret garden.
The Neighborhood:
Beachwood Canyon is one of LA's most charming hillside neighborhoods, tucked just beneath the Hollywood Sign. Known for quiet winding streets, historic homes, and lush canyon views, it feels like a secluded retreat while remaining minutes from Hollywood, studios, and hiking. Locals love the strong community vibe, scenic walks, and easy access to Griffith Park.
Getting Around:
Renting a car is recommended, but Uber is readily available. Beachwood Café and a local market are a 4-minute walk. Hollywood and major studios are under 15 minutes.
Other Things to Note:
I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH
NO PARTIES — includes guests staying up all night playing music or being disruptive
NO LOUD MUSIC (keep all doors closed)
NO MUSIC BY THE POOL PAST SUNSET
QUIET HOURS START AT 10 PM — even talking echoes throughout the neighborhood
ENTERING AND EXITING — loud cars and drunk guests are disruptive to neighbors
BEING RUDE TO NEIGHBORS — you will be asked to leave immediately
Break any of these rules and you will be evicted with no refund and a $1,000 noise fine. The neighborhood is on high alert and police will be called.
For security: outdoor security cameras, Ring cameras, and a noise monitoring device are active on the property. You will be notified if noise levels exceed the limit.
Pool & jacuzzi maintenance occurs once a week. You will be notified the day before.
Jacuzzi heat is included. Pool heat is $200/day — 24-hour notice required, takes ~15 hours to heat up.
Interaction with Guests:
I'm available 24/7. Feel free to reach out for any reason.
Si cancelas tu reserva, se aplicará la política de cancelación de tu propietario/a. De acuerdo con la normativa de la UE sobre los derechos del consumidor, los servicios de reserva de alojamiento no están sujetos al derecho de desistimiento.
Este alojamiento está gestionado por un propietario profesional. La prestación de servicios de alojamiento está vinculada a una actividad comercial, un negocio o una profesión.
Puede aplicarse un recargo por cada persona adicional, según la política del alojamiento.
A tu llegada, pueden pedirte un documento de identidad oficial con foto y una tarjeta de crédito o débito, o un depósito en efectivo, para cubrir los gastos imprevistos.
No se garantizan las solicitudes especiales, que están sujetas a disponibilidad en el momento de la llegada y pueden suponer un recargo adicional.
Está terminantemente prohibido celebrar fiestas u otros eventos en grupo en las instalaciones.
El propietario ha indicado que el alojamiento cuenta con un detector de monóxido de carbono.
El propietario ha indicado que el alojamiento cuenta con un detector de humo.
Entre los elementos de seguridad de este alojamiento, se incluye lo siguiente: extintor.
Este alojamiento tiene espacios al aire libre, como balcones, patios o terrazas que pueden no ser adecuados para niños; si tienes alguna duda, te recomendamos contactar con el alojamiento antes de tu llegada para confirmar que puedan hospedarte en una habitación adecuada
Información sobre la zona
Los Ángeles
Esta villa se encuentra en Hollywood Hills, un barrio de Los Ángeles. Anfiteatro Hollywood Bowl y Teatro Chino TCL son puntos fundamentales para los aficionados a la cultura; si lo tuyo son las compras, no olvides visitar Centro comercial The Grove y Sunset Strip. Observatorio Griffith y Universal Studios Hollywood también son opciones muy interesantes.
Paseo de la Fama de Hollywood - A 8 min en coche - 2.6 km
Torre Capitol Records - A 8 min en coche - 2.6 km
Cómo moverse por la zona
Estación de tren Glendale Transportation Center: 11 min en coche
Estación de metro Hollywood - Vine: 4 min en coche
Burbank, California (BUR-Hollywood Burbank): a 37 min en coche
Restaurantes
Gelson’s Wine Bar - A 3 min en coche
Beachwood Cafe - A 5 min a pie
Clark Street Diner - A 3 min en coche
For the Win - A 3 min en coche
Solar de Cahuenga - A 4 min en coche
Preguntas frecuentes
¿En NEW Luxury Villa, Secret Garden, Pool, Dogs OK hay piscina?
Sí, este alojamiento cuenta con una piscina.
¿Cuánto cuesta alojarse en NEW Luxury Villa, Secret Garden, Pool, Dogs OK?
A fecha de 4 de jul de 2026, los precios encontrados para una estancia de una noche y dos adultos en NEW Luxury Villa, Secret Garden, Pool, Dogs OK el 3 de nov de 2026 son de al menos 1537 €, tasas e impuestos incluidos. El precio se basa en la tarifa por noche más barata encontrada en las últimas 24 horas para los próximos 30 días. Los precios están sujetos a cambios. Selecciona tus fechas para ver precios más precisos.
¿En NEW Luxury Villa, Secret Garden, Pool, Dogs OK se aceptan mascotas?
No, este alojamiento no admite mascotas.
¿A qué hora se realiza la entrada en NEW Luxury Villa, Secret Garden, Pool, Dogs OK?
Hora de inicio del registro de entrada: 15:00.
¿A qué hora se realiza la salida en NEW Luxury Villa, Secret Garden, Pool, Dogs OK?
La salida se realiza a las 10:00.
¿Dónde se encuentra NEW Luxury Villa, Secret Garden, Pool, Dogs OK?
Esta villa de la zona de Hollywood Hills se sitúa a menos de 5 kilómetros de Paseo de la Fama de Hollywood, Avenida de Hollywood y Anfiteatro Hollywood Bowl. Observatorio Griffith está a 4 km de distancia.
Comentarios
9,6
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9,6/10
Limpieza
9,6/10
Llegada
9,8/10
Comunicación
10/10
Ubicación
9,6/10
Precisión del anuncio
Comentarios
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Shane R.
7 de jun de 2024
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Great location and Beautiful home
Overall we had a great stay. The house was very clean and well stocked in the kitchen. The landscaping is very well done too, and is very pleasant to look at.
Shane R.
Se alojó 2 noches en mayo de 2024
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Amy K.
27 de jul de 2022
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Hollywood Hills Heaven
Perfect spot to relax with the family. House was perfectly decorated and a great location for our visit! Highly recommend this lovely home.
Amy K.
Se alojó 3 noches en julio de 2022
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Leslie B.
23 de ago de 2023
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Highly Recommend!!!
Wonderful stay! Rudi was the best!!! The house is amazing!!!
Leslie B.
Se alojó 8 noches en agosto de 2023
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Katherine S.
12 de ago de 2022
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Amazing house near Hollywood
This was a perfect home base for our Hollywood adventure! Loved the pool and the short hike from the front door to the Hollywood sign! The property was beatiful, well maintained and managed! Thanks for the wonderful stay!
Katherine S.
Se alojó 2 noches en agosto de 2022
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Julia S.
24 de abr de 2023
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Great place
The house is amazing and great location. Rudi was great. He was easy to get a hold of and left great instructions for the house.
Julia S.
Se alojó 3 noches en abril de 2023
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Phil M.
28 de nov de 2021
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Great Host and House
We had a wonderful stay at this house. It is superbly remodeled and extremely comfortable. The layout is great for family dinners, hanging out, reading, and, enjoying the entire pool area. Excellent location on a quiet street. Just can’t say enough about how much we enjoyed staying there. And, the host is super!
Phil M.
Se alojó 5 noches en noviembre de 2021
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
ben f.
15 de dic de 2022
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
great time at Hollywoodland
Had a great stay at the lovely villa - he had left over food in the fridge which was the only weird thing
ben f.
Se alojó 3 noches en diciembre de 2022
Respuesta de VrboOwner el 18 de sept de 2023
Thank you for the 5 star review. I do leave condiments such as ketchup and mayonnaise in case out of town guests don't want to purchase these items.
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Claudia P.
14 de mar de 2023
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Fabulous !
We stayed in town to attend a family baby shower.
Beautiful house! Host was available and accommodating . So many great amenities .
Will definitely stay again when in town. Thank you for a great weekend!
Claudia P.
Se alojó 2 noches en marzo de 2023
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Gokce D.
30 de dic de 2021
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Awesome all around
Very lovely and charming property. Great location. Property owner and manager were very responsive to any and all needs. Book it! Not many rentals like this one.
Gokce D.
Se alojó 4 noches en diciembre de 2021
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Heather K.
19 de feb de 2023
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Wonderful home away from home
We had a wonderful visit, and felt very much at home despite being on the opposite coast! The house is warm and inviting. Rudi was available and helpful throughout our stay. A big shout out to super comfortable beds and pillows ! We couldn’t have slept better !!
Heather K.
Se alojó 34 noches en enero de 2023
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
stephanie g.
7 de sept de 2022
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Dream Location
This property was amazing - location, design, amenities and cleanliness. Everything in this home was top of the line including the new pool and hot tub. The property sits below the historic Hollywood sign and could not have been a more ideal location when visiting Los Angeles. The owner and property manager were both incredibly nice and responsive. I would definitely stay here again!
stephanie g.
Se alojó 3 noches en septiembre de 2022
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Cassandra J.
28 de ene de 2022
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Amazing stay!
My friends and I really enjoyed our stay. We were welcomed by the property manager who was super friendly and gave us a thorough tour of the property. It was also really easy communicate with both Rudi and the property manager throughout our stay. The home was beautiful and our stay was super comfortable. The house really is equipped with everything you need! The location was excellent and very quiet. Highly recommend!
Cassandra J.
Se alojó 2 noches en enero de 2022
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
tricia s.
29 de ene de 2023
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Hollywood visit
We had such a wonderful time in this gorgeous villa. The house is perfectly appointed and in a wonderful neighborhood. Unfortunately it rained every day we were there so we weren't able to enjoy the beautiful pool and outdoor area. Looks like we will have to have a return visit!!!
tricia s.
Se alojó 7 noches en diciembre de 2022
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Michal L.
23 de mar de 2026
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
This was the most amazing vacation home in an incredible neighborhood - convenient to SO many things in LA! Our family of 5 called this beautiful villa home for 5 days while we explored the city and beaches. Evan was a fantastic host - very helpful, kind, and easy to communicate with. This house has so much charm, is well-stocked, has a wonderful layout, and quite possibly the comfiest beds in the whole city! We spent plenty of time in the pool and hot tub, and the beautiful gardens make you feel like you’re in a fairy tale. The neighborhood is so charming and holds so much history - mornings walks were one of my favorite parts of our week! The Hollywood sign is right up the road, and the views of the city are fantastic. We walked to the Beachwood Cafe every morning for croissants and coffee, and the neighboring grocery store has essentials that you might need. The neighborhood is so close to Griffith Park, Sunset Bvld, Universal Studios, Rodeo…. The location drastically cut down on the amount of time we spent in traffic. We would absolutely stay here again….and can’t wait to come back!
Michal L.
Se alojó 5 noches en marzo de 2026
Verificado
8/10 Bueno
MARY B.
27 de jul de 2023
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
LA Quick trip
Beautiful property.
Funky (musty?) smell inside the house.
MARY B.
Se alojó 3 noches en julio de 2023
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Molly C.
4 de dic de 2022
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Exceptional Stay for our Family
We had high expectations for this property looking at the photos and the description- and the real thing was even better! The home and grounds were beautiful; so clean and stylish and yet comfortable for our family to gather/lounge/be together. The outside areas were heavenly- felt so very secluded. The kitchen was perfect for cooking our Thanksgiving meal. The location is top notch- great walking, close to everything we needed (grocery store, restaurants, Universal Studios, shopping, etc. Beyond ideal. Thank you Thank you!
Molly C.
Se alojó 4 noches en noviembre de 2022
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Sanjay M.
15 de feb de 2022
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Absolutely Incredible
From the moment we were greeted by Rudi we fell in love with this property. Absolutely incredible remodel of an already beautiful Spanish style home.
Great location, pool was heated and awesome during the few hot days we stayed .
Multiple seating areas outside for different experiences .
You can tell love , hard work and dedication went it to making this property what it is .
Can’t wait to return to this home , Rudi was an amazing host thank you for everything.
Sanjay M.
Se alojó 3 noches en febrero de 2022
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Lyn B.
21 de ago de 2023
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Dream vacation at Villa Alesis
Every corner of this magnificent property is thoughtfully designed and beautifully decorated. Highlights of Villa Alesia: 3+outdoor living areas gave us plenty of room to spread out in luxury, the heated pool and hot tub were relaxing and refreshing after a 'hard' day of shopping, beach and touring around LA, an amazing kitchen, warmly decorated rooms and the softest linen! We were so spoiled - it will be hard to stay anywhere else in the future. Did I mention that Rudi (our host) was so attentive! Everything exceeded our expectations. Perfect property, wonderful vacation. We'll be back.
Lyn B.
Se alojó 5 noches en agosto de 2023
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Whitney M.
26 de sept de 2023
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Absolutely Perfect Stay
The Villa Alesia is nothing short of magical. The decor is world class, the setting is spectacular, the pool is glorious, and there were even Meyer lemons in the large yard for my children to taste. The house was quiet and lovely and had everything we needed for our family of 4. We especially loved dining in the front courtyard each night, listening to the breeze and the peaceful sound of wind chimes. My 3 and 7 year olds adored the nice, warm pool, complete with almost constant butterfly sightings on the lush hillside just above. The bedrooms were each more stunning than the next, and the beds were extra comfy. We could not have been happier or more comfortable during our stay, and can't wait to return to this very special spot on our next trip to LA (our old hometown).
Whitney M.
Se alojó 9 noches en agosto de 2023
Respuesta de VrboOwner el 26 de sept de 2023
Guests like you make sharing my home so special thank you so much!!❤️❤️❤️
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Todd S.
16 de feb de 2022
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
STELLAR AND EPIC PROPERTY AND HOST
ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS RUDI IS THE MAN! IMMACULATE PROPERTY WITH ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES. WHENEVER I HAD A QUESTION- RUDI WAS A TEXT AWAY. TRUTH IS EVERYTHING WAS EASY FROM CHECK IN, THE STAY TO THE CHECK OUT! RUDI GOD BLESS
Todd S.
Se alojó 2 noches en febrero de 2022
Verificado
10/10 Excelente
Rahul M.
3 de nov de 2021
Aspectos positivos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación, ubicación y precisión del anuncio
Amazing Stay in a Gorgeous Home
My group of 7 friends could not have been more blown away by our stay at Rudi's magnificent home. The house is truly a work of art - every space you're in and everywhere your eye may wander is such a pleasure to behold. Learned upon arriving that this was all Rudi's doing himself and we couldn't stop talking about how good of a job he's done. The property itself was gorgeous as well, felt like a garden of eden nestled into the hollywood hills. Rudi was a great host, super communicative when we had questions, and very flexible with early arrivals and late departures - also had a great recommendation for a restaurant that we ended up visiting multiple times. Overall, we all really felt like we discovered a gem with this house and couldn't have been happier with our stay. Thanks Rudi!
Rahul M.
Se alojó 2 noches en octubre de 2021
Verificado
2/10 Horrible
roopi m.
23 de dic de 2021
Aspectos positivos: Ubicación
Aspectos negativos: Limpieza, llegada, comunicación y precisión del anuncio
bad communications. no response to major issues. owner infringined on our privacy, told us to send h
i am 78 years old. excess was through a steep staircase. master bedroom was down another steep stair case. property was cold. no instructions verbally or in writing. fuse tripped for 24 hours and no lights in sitting and dining
on last day we left empty boxes as there was no space in the outside bin. we had left over food on the dining table thinking that someone could eat it. we are Asians and do not bathe in tubs more so in winter. owner blamed us for a breakage .
roopi m.
Se alojó 4 noches en diciembre de 2021
Respuesta de VrboOwner el 18 de sept de 2023
Villa Alesia has just completed a meticulous restoration and renovation of the house and grounds. Either myself or the property manager are available 24/7 to ensure that guests have a remarkable time. The Villa is new to the rental market and the photos and website are very accurate. I do not understand this review- perhaps they are reviewing the wrong property?